Russell Shaw, Dave Winer and Richard MacManus have each declared that Web 2.0 is dead and/or that it never existed.
In the words of Kyle from Southpark, “You Bastards”.
These attacks come from the Web 2.0′s biggest champions, making them that much harder to bear. Dave Winer and Richard MacManus are members of the Web 2.0 Workgroup, and Richard also writes a ZDNet blog called Web 2.0 Explorer. These are the elite troops of the new web, and the last people I’d expect to hear say these things (well, except for Dave, who tends to say whatever is on his mind).
Web 2.0 is not a marketing slogan. It is the slogan of a people’s army. Our army. They are words that help us explain the explosion of conversations on the web, and justify our enthusiasm for innovation. Web 2.0 is why I came back from my exodus at the fringes of technology, to explore the frontier of the new consumer web.
Look at Flickr. Look at Delicious. Look at Riya. And 1,000 more. My God, how dare you tell me that something amazing and new, completely new, hasn’t happened on the web. Web 2.0 isn’t about wikipedia definitions and neatly wrapped bundles of functionality that non-innovators can use to understand what’s going on. It’s about the web coming out of a nuclear winter and bursting forth in a fit of chaotic growth. It’s about hope and love and getting ridiculously wealthy by ignoring the wisdom of those around you who say “your idea, it sucks”.
Don’t be so eager to tear down this castle in the sky. It may not be so easy to build it yet again.
Judging from the above string of comments… I am a little late to the party — however, I feel compelled to give my 2-cents.
Web 2.0 is simply a moniker that forces those that had written off the web… to return for a second look. In the Valley… where most of the activity is… the term Web 2.0 may be over used. However… I say we need to stick with the term… so what if it becomes less impactful as time goes on… it draws attention to innovations that have lead to the democratization of the Internet. Think about it… the fact that we even argue the merits of small startups selling early… means the Web has made a major change…. 5-years ago, due to the Web’s one-way nature, no one would have even known that these bootstrapped startups even existed!
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Some of us knew from the get-go that Dave knows what he is talking about and that although Web 2.0 is *something*, when they say it is dead/fake/etc what I think they are really saying is that the popular conception of what Web 2.0 is, is just totally fallacious.
What you’re talking about (*shudder*, the ‘semantic web’) probably won’t really exist until there is end to end communication between computers’ logical spaces across the network layers. Sorry, just asynch xml requests are not mesh computing.
Has anyone noticed that the pundits are now evangelizing Web 3.0? It seems that Web 2.0 came and went while everyone was talking about what it meant.
As to a better name for this trend, I like David Berlind’s take — “the uncomputer”. Berlind realizes that the Web is moving away from a page-based metaphor and becoming something that is better delineated by API boundaries instead. So maybe instead of thinking of what is happening as part of the Web (which should be reserved for the page-based metaphor) we should be thinking about what to call the space in which all of this innovation is happening. Is it the Web? Or is it something else?
When are you people going to understand? If you have to make the claims yourself that did something great, then you didn’t do a thing. It’s only when others talk about the great things you have that make you worthy of the priase.
Hummm… I like how the term Web2.0 has encouraged people to create wonderful things, but some of the things that are called Web2.0 today was made in “Web1.0″… So i can get along with what these guys said, but i wouldn’t call Web2.0 dead.. it is there now and people do whatever they want under that flag. It is all fine by me as long people keep doing things.
To me Web2.0 finally just got some Devs to read some Docs and to build proper sites ^_^
You might find this entertaining: Dave Winer named first Bastard of the Blogs at http://www.thosebastards.com.
There just isn’t anything else happening like Web 2.0, as evidenced by all the exciting things you cover constantly on TechCrunch. So it’ll all sort itself out eventually.
Информативно,продолжай в том же духе