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	<title>Comments on: O&#8217;Reilly Associated with &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; Trademark Scandal</title>
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		<title>By: Interesting Traffic Trends for TechCrush.com - Brilliant Marketing &#171; Whats my point &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2006/05/25/oreilly-to-trademark-web-20/#comment-13728</link>
		<dc:creator>Interesting Traffic Trends for TechCrush.com - Brilliant Marketing &#171; Whats my point &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 11:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Stove: &#8220;Will Arrington fall into the reputation blender like Tim O&#8217;Reilly? His words from TechCrunch on the Web 2.0 trademark brouhaha are interesting: &#8220; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stove: &#8220;Will Arrington fall into the reputation blender like Tim O&#8217;Reilly? His words from TechCrunch on the Web 2.0 trademark brouhaha are interesting: &#8220; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VC Headlines</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2006/05/25/oreilly-to-trademark-web-20/#comment-7817</link>
		<dc:creator>VC Headlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 01:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Web 2.0 Trademark Controversy:  Take Note and Take Care...&lt;/strong&gt;

Over the last several days, I have been reading the "discussion" of trademark law that has been taking...</description>
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<p>Over the last several days, I have been reading the &#8220;discussion&#8221; of trademark law that has been taking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: VentureBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2006/05/25/oreilly-to-trademark-web-20/#comment-3968</link>
		<dc:creator>VentureBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 01:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Web 2.0 Trademark Controversy:  Take Note and Take Care...&lt;/strong&gt;

Over the last several days, I have been reading the "discussion" of trademark law that has been taking place in a blog neighborhood near you. As some of you may know, in a past life I was an Intellectual Property......</description>
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<p>Over the last several days, I have been reading the &#8220;discussion&#8221; of trademark law that has been taking place in a blog neighborhood near you. As some of you may know, in a past life I was an Intellectual Property&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kal</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2006/05/25/oreilly-to-trademark-web-20/#comment-3858</link>
		<dc:creator>Kal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 09:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, you are a former corporate attorney with extensive technology experience. Hence, you're the perfect person to answer this question: What's your legal perspective on this issue? Please tell us what you think.

Personally, I believe that everyone has the right to protect his intellectual property. But it appears that O’Reilly may not have protected his.  A genericized trademark is “a trademark or brand name which is often used as the colloquial description for a particular type of product or service as a result of widespread popular or cultural usage.”  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genericized_trademark
I have read that in America and other countries, for years, there have been numerous conferences and other events with “Web 2.0” in the name. http://blog.softtechvc.com/2006/05/the_web_20_lega.html 
If this is true, then since O’Reilly and his company did not previously enforce their rights and send Cease &#38; Desist letters to *those* conference organizers, it seems to me that “Web 2.0” has been allowed to become a genericized trademark. Hence, trademark rights may no longer be enforceable or at least it may be difficult for O’Reilly and crew to now legally enforce their rights. A long list of other genericized trademarks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generic_and_genericized_trademarks  
Also, see the very brief opinion of The Trademark Blog on this topic: http://www.schwimmerlegal.com/2006/05/web_20_v_web_20.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, you are a former corporate attorney with extensive technology experience. Hence, you&#8217;re the perfect person to answer this question: What&#8217;s your legal perspective on this issue? Please tell us what you think.</p>
<p>Personally, I believe that everyone has the right to protect his intellectual property. But it appears that O’Reilly may not have protected his.  A genericized trademark is “a trademark or brand name which is often used as the colloquial description for a particular type of product or service as a result of widespread popular or cultural usage.”  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genericized_trademark" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genericized_trademark</a><br />
I have read that in America and other countries, for years, there have been numerous conferences and other events with “Web 2.0” in the name. <a href="http://blog.softtechvc.com/2006/05/the_web_20_lega.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.softtechvc.com/2006/05/the_web_20_lega.html</a><br />
If this is true, then since O’Reilly and his company did not previously enforce their rights and send Cease &amp; Desist letters to *those* conference organizers, it seems to me that “Web 2.0” has been allowed to become a genericized trademark. Hence, trademark rights may no longer be enforceable or at least it may be difficult for O’Reilly and crew to now legally enforce their rights. A long list of other genericized trademarks: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generic_and_genericized_trademarks" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generic_and_genericized_trademarks</a><br />
Also, see the very brief opinion of The Trademark Blog on this topic: <a href="http://www.schwimmerlegal.com/2006/05/web_20_v_web_20.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.schwimmerlegal.com/2006/05/web_20_v_web_20.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: itnorthwest.org &#187; FooCamp in Cork</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2006/05/25/oreilly-to-trademark-web-20/#comment-3856</link>
		<dc:creator>itnorthwest.org &#187; FooCamp in Cork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 08:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Maybe&#8230; The whole blogosphere is focussed on our friends at ITCork down in the Republic of Cork, who have caused a bit of stir in the online world. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2006/05/25/oreilly-to-trademark-web-20/#comment-3780</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 10:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not something trademark something like (the bit in bold) - "O'Reilly Conferences present &lt;b&gt;'The O'Reilly Web 2.0 Conference&lt;/b&gt; - 2006'".

Trade mark friendly, Web 2.0 friendly, protects the O'Reilly conference name and still shares the 'Web 2.0' pharse with everybody else - how hard can this be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not something trademark something like (the bit in bold) - &#8220;O&#8217;Reilly Conferences present <b>&#8216;The O&#8217;Reilly Web 2.0 Conference</b> - 2006&#8242;&#8221;.</p>
<p>Trade mark friendly, Web 2.0 friendly, protects the O&#8217;Reilly conference name and still shares the &#8216;Web 2.0&#8242; pharse with everybody else - how hard can this be?</p>
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		<title>By: Liam @ Web 2.5 Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2006/05/25/oreilly-to-trademark-web-20/#comment-3767</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam @ Web 2.5 Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 19:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whither Tim, indeed... O'Reilly takes an unprecedented beating online (but not in the mass media) and the CEO fails to step in. Now his fans claim to await "the return of the king", as if he could manipulate history like Wikipedia and simply revert a couple of days. The damage is done.

They have to back down. Battelle starts to in a comment on his post http://battellemedia.com/archives/002596.php -- though they'll have to get CMP's buy-in, which could take real time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whither Tim, indeed&#8230; O&#8217;Reilly takes an unprecedented beating online (but not in the mass media) and the CEO fails to step in. Now his fans claim to await &#8220;the return of the king&#8221;, as if he could manipulate history like Wikipedia and simply revert a couple of days. The damage is done.</p>
<p>They have to back down. Battelle starts to in a comment on his post <a href="http://battellemedia.com/archives/002596.php" rel="nofollow">http://battellemedia.com/archives/002596.php</a> &#8212; though they&#8217;ll have to get CMP&#8217;s buy-in, which could take real time.</p>
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		<title>By: Shel Israel</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2006/05/25/oreilly-to-trademark-web-20/#comment-3759</link>
		<dc:creator>Shel Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 05:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell me--when is the last time any of you went n vacation and were not connected to email and the internet? Hw about not being reached by cell phone when a crisis occurs. Mchael, you accuse me of shooting too fast, but if you read more slowly you would see that I said that Tim needed to react quickly or there would be a reputation implosion. He did not respoind quickly.  His PR person did. Does anyone really believe that in this day and age, he is unaware of the situation? Wether Tim knew when the letter went ut or not is not my issue.  My issue is that the leading evangelist for open source has let this conversation go on for 36 hours without participating. BTW, Michael, have a nice conference in Seattle.  What are you calling it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me&#8211;when is the last time any of you went n vacation and were not connected to email and the internet? Hw about not being reached by cell phone when a crisis occurs. Mchael, you accuse me of shooting too fast, but if you read more slowly you would see that I said that Tim needed to react quickly or there would be a reputation implosion. He did not respoind quickly.  His PR person did. Does anyone really believe that in this day and age, he is unaware of the situation? Wether Tim knew when the letter went ut or not is not my issue.  My issue is that the leading evangelist for open source has let this conversation go on for 36 hours without participating. BTW, Michael, have a nice conference in Seattle.  What are you calling it?</p>
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		<title>By: 泛泛其景 &#187; 看来这回大家都侵权了</title>
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		<dc:creator>泛泛其景 &#187; 看来这回大家都侵权了</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 21:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 消息一出，激起千层浪。自然而然，矛头通通指向Tim O&#8217;Reilly，这位IT出版界的老大和Web2.0这个名称的最先提出者。虽然这份信是以合作方CMP的名义发出去的，但Tim也脱不了干系。网上的声讨此起彼伏。最后，Tim也只能出来发表了一封不痛不痒，,甚至有些站不住脚的声明。中心思想是要是你要搞会议可以，但就是不能用Web2.0大会的字样。大家的回贴都愤愤不平，这回Tim的一世英名估计要被大打则扣。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 消息一出，激起千层浪。自然而然，矛头通通指向Tim O&#8217;Reilly，这位IT出版界的老大和Web2.0这个名称的最先提出者。虽然这份信是以合作方CMP的名义发出去的，但Tim也脱不了干系。网上的声讨此起彼伏。最后，Tim也只能出来发表了一封不痛不痒，,甚至有些站不住脚的声明。中心思想是要是你要搞会议可以，但就是不能用Web2.0大会的字样。大家的回贴都愤愤不平，这回Tim的一世英名估计要被大打则扣。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Loosely Coupled // Tim Marman's Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2006/05/25/oreilly-to-trademark-web-20/#comment-3751</link>
		<dc:creator>Loosely Coupled // Tim Marman's Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 21:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Web 2.0 Trademark Debacle...&lt;/strong&gt;

There has been a bit of controversy over O'Reilly's "Web 2.0" service mark cease-and-desist letter and......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Web 2.0 Trademark Debacle&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>There has been a bit of controversy over O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; service mark cease-and-desist letter and&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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