Comments on: Regarding Google/Feedburner, and Spam Blogs http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/05/23/regarding-googlefeedburner-and-spam-blogs/ Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:57:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: BuzzMag » Jak přinutit “top” blogery aby vás linkovali? http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/05/23/regarding-googlefeedburner-and-spam-blogs/#comment-102765 BuzzMag » Jak přinutit “top” blogery aby vás linkovali? Fri, 03 Aug 2007 06:25:44 +0000 http://www.crunchnotes.com/?p=398#comment-102765 [...] Randy Charles Morin, respektovaný bloger s téměř 10 tisíci RSS “předplatiteli” přišel na novou metodu jak získat zpětné odkazy od “áčkových” blogerů. Celé to vzniklo tak, že Morin (jemně řečeno) příliš “nemusí” Michaela Arringtona a při snaze uvést jiný zdroj postu (než TechCrunch) o prodeji Feedburneru se mu podařilo odkazovat sploggera (čistě “copy-paste” Arringtonův článek). Arringtonova rozhořčená reakce a backlink na sebe nenechaly dlouho čekat. Krátce poté se navíc přidal ještě Scoble. Morin tak získal rovnou 2 linky, které jen tak neseženete. Jedinou nevýhodou této taktiky je snad pouze fakt, že se netýká bezvýznamných blogerů. Nic není zadarmo. [...] [...] Randy Charles Morin, respektovaný bloger s téměř 10 tisíci RSS “předplatiteli” přišel na novou metodu jak získat zpětné odkazy od “áčkových” blogerů. Celé to vzniklo tak, že Morin (jemně řečeno) příliš “nemusí” Michaela Arringtona a při snaze uvést jiný zdroj postu (než TechCrunch) o prodeji Feedburneru se mu podařilo odkazovat sploggera (čistě “copy-paste” Arringtonův článek). Arringtonova rozhořčená reakce a backlink na sebe nenechaly dlouho čekat. Krátce poté se navíc přidal ještě Scoble. Morin tak získal rovnou 2 linky, které jen tak neseženete. Jedinou nevýhodou této taktiky je snad pouze fakt, že se netýká bezvýznamných blogerů. Nic není zadarmo. [...]

]]> By: Jak přinutit top blogery aby vás linkovali? http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/05/23/regarding-googlefeedburner-and-spam-blogs/#comment-82382 Jak přinutit top blogery aby vás linkovali? Sat, 02 Jun 2007 00:40:35 +0000 http://www.crunchnotes.com/?p=398#comment-82382 [...] Randy Charles Morin, respektovaný bloger s téměř 10 tisíci RSS “předplatiteli” přišel na novou metodu jak získat zpětné odkazy od “áčkových” blogerů. Celé to vzniklo tak, že Morin (jemně řečeno) příliš “nemusí” Michaela Arringtona a při snaze uvést jiný zdroj postu (než TechCrunch) o prodeji Feedburneru se mu podařilo odkazovat sploggera (čistě “copy-paste” Arringtonův článek). Arringtonova rozhořčená reakce a backlink na sebe nenechaly dlouho čekat. Krátce poté se navíc přidal ještě Scoble. Morin tak získal rovnou 2 linky, které jen tak neseženete. Jedinou nevýhodou této taktiky je snad pouze fakt, že se netýká bezvýznamných blogerů. Nic není zadarmo. [...] [...] Randy Charles Morin, respektovaný bloger s téměř 10 tisíci RSS “předplatiteli” přišel na novou metodu jak získat zpětné odkazy od “áčkových” blogerů. Celé to vzniklo tak, že Morin (jemně řečeno) příliš “nemusí” Michaela Arringtona a při snaze uvést jiný zdroj postu (než TechCrunch) o prodeji Feedburneru se mu podařilo odkazovat sploggera (čistě “copy-paste” Arringtonův článek). Arringtonova rozhořčená reakce a backlink na sebe nenechaly dlouho čekat. Krátce poté se navíc přidal ještě Scoble. Morin tak získal rovnou 2 linky, které jen tak neseženete. Jedinou nevýhodou této taktiky je snad pouze fakt, že se netýká bezvýznamných blogerů. Nic není zadarmo. [...]

]]> By: Ugo Di Profio http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/05/23/regarding-googlefeedburner-and-spam-blogs/#comment-80318 Ugo Di Profio Sun, 27 May 2007 05:46:48 +0000 http://www.crunchnotes.com/?p=398#comment-80318 @Allen Stern I'm only saying that the number of comments is an additional evidence people and algorithms can consider. As Nick wrote, search engine could try to be smarter, and properly rate blogs with comments disabled as well as blogs with spammed comments. @Allen Stern
I’m only saying that the number of comments is an additional evidence people and algorithms can consider.
As Nick wrote, search engine could try to be smarter, and properly rate blogs with comments disabled as well as blogs with spammed comments.

]]> By: Kevin Burton http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/05/23/regarding-googlefeedburner-and-spam-blogs/#comment-79486 Kevin Burton Fri, 25 May 2007 05:37:17 +0000 http://www.crunchnotes.com/?p=398#comment-79486 I hate to say it but if more of these search engines would use Spinn3r data they wouldn't have this problem. We can find duplicate content and remove it from our system..... We might actually be exposing a "duplicate or not" style API to hopefully solve this problem moving forward. Kevin I hate to say it but if more of these search engines would use Spinn3r data they wouldn’t have this problem.

We can find duplicate content and remove it from our system…..

We might actually be exposing a “duplicate or not” style API to hopefully solve this problem moving forward.

Kevin

]]> By: engtech @ internet duct tape http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/05/23/regarding-googlefeedburner-and-spam-blogs/#comment-79390 engtech @ internet duct tape Thu, 24 May 2007 23:35:07 +0000 http://www.crunchnotes.com/?p=398#comment-79390 To the corporate cutthroatedness of the 80s I go then. To the corporate cutthroatedness of the 80s I go then.

]]> By: Randy Charles Morin http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/05/23/regarding-googlefeedburner-and-spam-blogs/#comment-79372 Randy Charles Morin Thu, 24 May 2007 22:12:16 +0000 http://www.crunchnotes.com/?p=398#comment-79372 More coffee. Once you cut back on coffee, you turn into a 60s flower child. More coffee. Once you cut back on coffee, you turn into a 60s flower child.

]]> By: engtech @ internet duct tape http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/05/23/regarding-googlefeedburner-and-spam-blogs/#comment-79320 engtech @ internet duct tape Thu, 24 May 2007 19:52:02 +0000 http://www.crunchnotes.com/?p=398#comment-79320 Woah, I take back my last comment completely. I misread the original post and thought therssweblog was the splog, not the person who linked to the splot. Sorry Randy, and thanks for linking me (he did not scrape my content -- I saw an rssweblog trackback because of a genuine link). Time to go have more coffee... or maybe, less coffee. Woah, I take back my last comment completely. I misread the original post and thought therssweblog was the splog, not the person who linked to the splot.

Sorry Randy, and thanks for linking me (he did not scrape my content — I saw an rssweblog trackback because of a genuine link).

Time to go have more coffee… or maybe, less coffee.

]]> By: engtech @ internet duct tape http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/05/23/regarding-googlefeedburner-and-spam-blogs/#comment-79318 engtech @ internet duct tape Thu, 24 May 2007 19:35:51 +0000 http://www.crunchnotes.com/?p=398#comment-79318 <i>I just can’t believe that Technorati isn’t smart enough to say ‘well, this post from a blog with zero trackbacks is word-for-word the same as the post this other guy who has 17,000 trackbacks just posted - perhaps I shouldn’t include it in my results?’</i> Yeah, but Technorati can't even handle 301 redirects. I buy a new domain for my blog and my technorati authority goes from 1400 to 0. What I can't believe is that the rssweblog has over 9000 subscribers. I'm adding them to my comment blacklist now (I'm pretty sure they're scraping me as well, I've seen referrers) I just can’t believe that Technorati isn’t smart enough to say ‘well, this post from a blog with zero trackbacks is word-for-word the same as the post this other guy who has 17,000 trackbacks just posted - perhaps I shouldn’t include it in my results?’

Yeah, but Technorati can’t even handle 301 redirects.

I buy a new domain for my blog and my technorati authority goes from 1400 to 0.

What I can’t believe is that the rssweblog has over 9000 subscribers. I’m adding them to my comment blacklist now (I’m pretty sure they’re scraping me as well, I’ve seen referrers)

]]> By: Nik Cubrilovic http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/05/23/regarding-googlefeedburner-and-spam-blogs/#comment-79292 Nik Cubrilovic Thu, 24 May 2007 18:08:38 +0000 http://www.crunchnotes.com/?p=398#comment-79292 I suspect that Randy heard about the story and then found the post he linked to using one of the blog search engines. The rest of the blogosphere is a link trust relationship so the only way that splogs can tap in are through the search engines, and through trackbacks I have no doubt as to where the responsibility for splogs lies, it is with the search engines (particularly Technorati) and also the blog providers (Blogger) who make it too easy to setup a splog I just can't believe that Technorati isn't smart enough to say 'well, this post from a blog with zero trackbacks is word-for-word the same as the post this other guy who has 17,000 trackbacks just posted - perhaps I shouldn't include it in my results?' The reason why Google kicks ass is because their development is driven by providing accurate and clean search results for users, it is not driven by the number of blogs or posts that they index I suspect that Randy heard about the story and then found the post he linked to using one of the blog search engines.

The rest of the blogosphere is a link trust relationship so the only way that splogs can tap in are through the search engines, and through trackbacks

I have no doubt as to where the responsibility for splogs lies, it is with the search engines (particularly Technorati) and also the blog providers (Blogger) who make it too easy to setup a splog

I just can’t believe that Technorati isn’t smart enough to say ‘well, this post from a blog with zero trackbacks is word-for-word the same as the post this other guy who has 17,000 trackbacks just posted - perhaps I shouldn’t include it in my results?’

The reason why Google kicks ass is because their development is driven by providing accurate and clean search results for users, it is not driven by the number of blogs or posts that they index

]]> By: Randy Charles Morin http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/05/23/regarding-googlefeedburner-and-spam-blogs/#comment-79255 Randy Charles Morin Thu, 24 May 2007 15:12:47 +0000 http://www.crunchnotes.com/?p=398#comment-79255 Nice catch. Link removed. I make an effort to link to c-listers, which leads to these problems. Did you lift me from the blacklist just to take a shot at me? Respected blogger? Wow, where did you source that? My wife and kids don't even respect me :-p Nice catch. Link removed. I make an effort to link to c-listers, which leads to these problems. Did you lift me from the blacklist just to take a shot at me? Respected blogger? Wow, where did you source that? My wife and kids don’t even respect me :-p

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