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		<title>By: Computador information &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Defiant &#124; USS Monitor (NCC-1713 / NCC-61826)</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/06/25/sorry-youve-mistaken-me-for-someone-who-gives-a-damn/comment-page-2/#comment-155599</link>
		<dc:creator>Computador information &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Defiant &#124; USS Monitor (NCC-1713 / NCC-61826)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 00:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CrunchNotes » Sorry CNET, You’ve Mistaken Me For Someone Who Gives  Posted June 25 &#124; 96 comments. The blogosphere (but not CNET) seems to have moved on from this weekend’s diversionary game of whack-a-blogger. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] CrunchNotes » Sorry CNET, You’ve Mistaken Me For Someone Who Gives  Posted June 25 | 96 comments. The blogosphere (but not CNET) seems to have moved on from this weekend’s diversionary game of whack-a-blogger. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: More on Chatty Marketing&#8230;Blah, Blah, Blah &#124; BoomTown &#124; Kara Swisher &#124; AllThingsD</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/06/25/sorry-youve-mistaken-me-for-someone-who-gives-a-damn/comment-page-2/#comment-98667</link>
		<dc:creator>More on Chatty Marketing&#8230;Blah, Blah, Blah &#124; BoomTown &#124; Kara Swisher &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My own conclusion was that, even with all the disclosure, which could have been a lot better, it was probably a dicey and even flat-out wrong thing for most bloggers to do, except apparently for Michael &#8220;Pound Sand&#8221; Arrington, who doesn&#8217;t appear to care what most anyone thinks anyway (Are you looking at me?) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My own conclusion was that, even with all the disclosure, which could have been a lot better, it was probably a dicey and even flat-out wrong thing for most bloggers to do, except apparently for Michael &#8220;Pound Sand&#8221; Arrington, who doesn&#8217;t appear to care what most anyone thinks anyway (Are you looking at me?) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lessons Learnt from People Ready Controversy at My GotChance</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/06/25/sorry-youve-mistaken-me-for-someone-who-gives-a-damn/comment-page-2/#comment-92114</link>
		<dc:creator>Lessons Learnt from People Ready Controversy at My GotChance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As with the reader feedback, I&#8217;ve also been following the feedback of the other bloggers involved. Om Malik and Paul Kedrosky both wrote mea culpa posts and pulled the ads. Fred Wilson defended the ads, as did Mike Arrington. Mike is never one to pull punches, in fact he has been throwing plenty on this issue. And I support him on this (even though he might think he is in this battle alone). Both of us are self-made publishers and blogging is our business - and in that respect we are different from Fred and Paul, whose blogs are more personal. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As with the reader feedback, I&#8217;ve also been following the feedback of the other bloggers involved. Om Malik and Paul Kedrosky both wrote mea culpa posts and pulled the ads. Fred Wilson defended the ads, as did Mike Arrington. Mike is never one to pull punches, in fact he has been throwing plenty on this issue. And I support him on this (even though he might think he is in this battle alone). Both of us are self-made publishers and blogging is our business &#8211; and in that respect we are different from Fred and Paul, whose blogs are more personal. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/06/25/sorry-youve-mistaken-me-for-someone-who-gives-a-damn/comment-page-2/#comment-91611</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I respect Dan&#039;s opinion yet. Forgetting about Michael and how he&#039;s perceived, I don&#039;t understand why John Battelle is A-OK with the Hakia (search for better search, he&#039;s got the ad running on his own site at battellemedia.com) and not People Ready.

I don&#039;t care either way what FM&#039;s biz model is. If they want to try these new advertorials involving writers I&#039;m fine with it (it&#039;s obvious it&#039;s a sponsored ad, as was People Ready). 

I might be fine with the logic that goes into saying the &quot;People Ready&quot; campaign is not at all ok, but the Hakia campaign is -- provided that the logic isn&#039;t &quot;People Ready&quot; wasn&#039;t OK because it&#039;s MSFT.  

What winds up happening is whether Michael looks arrogant in his posturing or not, he&#039;s at least consistent and not appearing to be hypocritcal.  

I don&#039;t understand how Battelle gets to choose &quot;Hakia is OK/People Ready Isn&#039;t&quot; (and again, Battelle is running the ad on his own site). This appears to be inconsistent and hypocritical. If someone can clear the appearance of that up for me, i may be reached at robert.seidman  @ gmail. com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I respect Dan&#8217;s opinion yet. Forgetting about Michael and how he&#8217;s perceived, I don&#8217;t understand why John Battelle is A-OK with the Hakia (search for better search, he&#8217;s got the ad running on his own site at battellemedia.com) and not People Ready.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care either way what FM&#8217;s biz model is. If they want to try these new advertorials involving writers I&#8217;m fine with it (it&#8217;s obvious it&#8217;s a sponsored ad, as was People Ready). </p>
<p>I might be fine with the logic that goes into saying the &#8220;People Ready&#8221; campaign is not at all ok, but the Hakia campaign is &#8212; provided that the logic isn&#8217;t &#8220;People Ready&#8221; wasn&#8217;t OK because it&#8217;s MSFT.  </p>
<p>What winds up happening is whether Michael looks arrogant in his posturing or not, he&#8217;s at least consistent and not appearing to be hypocritcal.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand how Battelle gets to choose &#8220;Hakia is OK/People Ready Isn&#8217;t&#8221; (and again, Battelle is running the ad on his own site). This appears to be inconsistent and hypocritical. If someone can clear the appearance of that up for me, i may be reached at robert.seidman  @ gmail. com</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan - I greatly respect your opinion, always. But from where I&#039;m sitting, Cooper sure does look like an asshole to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan &#8211; I greatly respect your opinion, always. But from where I&#8217;m sitting, Cooper sure does look like an asshole to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Seidman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 07:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am all for free markets and competition. this hangup on bogus disclosure has me rankled though It could just be the Giants losing another one run game but that $6 million widescreen jumbotron almost made up for it. so pretty!

Charlie, in the TV business advertisers are fixated on demographics like 18-49 with HH income greater than $100,000. Sometimes a show with relatively low ratings can stick around (say 30 Rock) because it does well in that demographic while another show with similar or better ratings (say Studio 60)gets axed because none of the rich people are watching.

And sometimes, in a free market, which you&#039;re all for, that&#039;s the way it goes.  I submit to you that at least here, between San Francisco and San Jose, wherever you want to draw that economic wealth line, TechCrunch (and Michael) won that high end demographic.  I think you would agree with this too without argument. I don&#039;t think you need to disclose this on any piece you write about Arrington.

Why are Denton, Scoble, Battelle, Om, etc all so fired up about People Ready but the campaign running at: http://searchforbettersearch.com/  is fine and this ad has not been pulled off of TechCrunch. If any of you -- you, Battelle, Denton, etc. can explain why that&#039;s any different at all (other than it&#039;s not Microsoft), fine, I am game for being schooled and learning.  But if none of you can explain it, Arrington is well within his rights to tell you all to pound sand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am all for free markets and competition. this hangup on bogus disclosure has me rankled though It could just be the Giants losing another one run game but that $6 million widescreen jumbotron almost made up for it. so pretty!</p>
<p>Charlie, in the TV business advertisers are fixated on demographics like 18-49 with HH income greater than $100,000. Sometimes a show with relatively low ratings can stick around (say 30 Rock) because it does well in that demographic while another show with similar or better ratings (say Studio 60)gets axed because none of the rich people are watching.</p>
<p>And sometimes, in a free market, which you&#8217;re all for, that&#8217;s the way it goes.  I submit to you that at least here, between San Francisco and San Jose, wherever you want to draw that economic wealth line, TechCrunch (and Michael) won that high end demographic.  I think you would agree with this too without argument. I don&#8217;t think you need to disclose this on any piece you write about Arrington.</p>
<p>Why are Denton, Scoble, Battelle, Om, etc all so fired up about People Ready but the campaign running at: <a href="http://searchforbettersearch.com/" rel="nofollow">http://searchforbettersearch.com/</a>  is fine and this ad has not been pulled off of TechCrunch. If any of you &#8212; you, Battelle, Denton, etc. can explain why that&#8217;s any different at all (other than it&#8217;s not Microsoft), fine, I am game for being schooled and learning.  But if none of you can explain it, Arrington is well within his rights to tell you all to pound sand.</p>
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		<title>By: Practical Blogging &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-06-27</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/06/25/sorry-youve-mistaken-me-for-someone-who-gives-a-damn/comment-page-2/#comment-91394</link>
		<dc:creator>Practical Blogging &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-06-27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 04:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sorry CNET, You’ve Mistaken Me For Someone Who Gives A Damn I could feel the venom here&#8230; (tags: cnet blogging blogosphere techcrunch arrington) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sorry CNET, You’ve Mistaken Me For Someone Who Gives A Damn I could feel the venom here&#8230; (tags: cnet blogging blogosphere techcrunch arrington) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 03:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post Mike, on target.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Mike, on target.</p>
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		<title>By: charles cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To &quot;Michael,&quot;

Wow. Just wow, indeed. Read the Wired article before going off half cocked.

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/15-07/ff_arrington?currentPage=all

&quot;His aim is to become the premier technology news site on the Internet, one that goes head-to-head with CNET and potentially with other technology news sites, including Wired.com. Arrington figures he can get by with just a few dozen employees. &quot;With 25 to 30 paid writers against CNET&#039;s huge cost base, they won&#039;t be able to compete,&quot; he says.&quot;

No big deal. That&#039;s the free market. Let&#039;s compete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8220;Michael,&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow. Just wow, indeed. Read the Wired article before going off half cocked.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/15-07/ff_arrington?currentPage=all" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/15-07/ff_arrington?currentPage=all</a></p>
<p>&#8220;His aim is to become the premier technology news site on the Internet, one that goes head-to-head with CNET and potentially with other technology news sites, including Wired.com. Arrington figures he can get by with just a few dozen employees. &#8220;With 25 to 30 paid writers against CNET&#8217;s huge cost base, they won&#8217;t be able to compete,&#8221; he says.&#8221;</p>
<p>No big deal. That&#8217;s the free market. Let&#8217;s compete.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNet has been in a nosedive for years. They are increasingly irrelevant, and now have latched on to the idea of fanning flamewars. This is far from the first time in the past couple of years.

They came to the blogging table a day late and a dollar short, after gutting their actual reporting staff, which is reduced these days to primarily reprinting press releases. The HP scandal demonstrated that while they could easily report what people called them up to tell them to print, once the story required in-depth exploration, they fell far behind the &quot;real&quot; news organizations in their ability to take it any further.

And their arrogance shows even in Mr. Cooper&#039;s comment here:

&quot;You’re competitive and dream of supplanting CNET one day.&quot;

Wow. Just wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNet has been in a nosedive for years. They are increasingly irrelevant, and now have latched on to the idea of fanning flamewars. This is far from the first time in the past couple of years.</p>
<p>They came to the blogging table a day late and a dollar short, after gutting their actual reporting staff, which is reduced these days to primarily reprinting press releases. The HP scandal demonstrated that while they could easily report what people called them up to tell them to print, once the story required in-depth exploration, they fell far behind the &#8220;real&#8221; news organizations in their ability to take it any further.</p>
<p>And their arrogance shows even in Mr. Cooper&#8217;s comment here:</p>
<p>&#8220;You’re competitive and dream of supplanting CNET one day.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow. Just wow.</p>
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