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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/12/14/the-fact-and-fiction-of-sam-sethi/comment-page-2/#comment-150276</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>comments are closed. I refuse to listen to anyone else draw conclusions about Marc that just aren&#039;t supported by what I wrote, and any editors out there who still think that Sam is blameless in this situation and that somehow I am to blame for Blognation&#039;s failure can take their rants elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>comments are closed. I refuse to listen to anyone else draw conclusions about Marc that just aren&#8217;t supported by what I wrote, and any editors out there who still think that Sam is blameless in this situation and that somehow I am to blame for Blognation&#8217;s failure can take their rants elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/12/14/the-fact-and-fiction-of-sam-sethi/comment-page-2/#comment-150273</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ben - Marc&#039;s heart attack led to Oliver&#039;s post, which led to blognation falling apart. its relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ben &#8211; Marc&#8217;s heart attack led to Oliver&#8217;s post, which led to blognation falling apart. its relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/12/14/the-fact-and-fiction-of-sam-sethi/comment-page-2/#comment-150268</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

In addition to the above, I missed this comment by you:
&quot; the fact that you ignore all the incredibly evil shit Sethi did to his own employees, including Marc, tells me where you stand on this issue or any other that I post about: Anti-TechCrunch.&quot;

Not only is this the attitude that I was writing about (childish at best - wha disagree with a part of your post and it is anti-techcrunch), but this also drives home the absurdity of you covering your own ass and not delving into omnidrive and the royal screwing going on there. But do it in a reporting way, rather than making leaps implicating someone in manslaughter. 

Before you roll out your same tired line - read what I wrote above and what I say here: I read TechCrunch daily (many times), I enjoy TechCrunch by-in-large, I am not anti-TechCrunch (see said enjoyment) and I was not looking to pick in any way... but I have noted posts such in November, where the way your write is not only shameful but has crossed into offensive. The implications of the heart-attack, along with the clear personal vendetta you seem to have, while ignoring other similar stories, really make me lose respect for you and this business. There are clearly others that feel the same. You can send a big one fingered salute to us all if you like, but at the end of the day - we pay your bills. Many of us are simply asking you to attempt to really look at the slant and the way you have covered this entire thing from start to this really absurd finish. I write this because I would like to think TechCrunch and ultimately you, should be above this sleezy crap. A man is dead, you have no idea if it was related to the stress, but you chose to bring it up. That is just one of many things not right with it and I for one would like to see a follow-up post where you admit your slants and at least how it looked. Rise above this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>In addition to the above, I missed this comment by you:<br />
&#8221; the fact that you ignore all the incredibly evil shit Sethi did to his own employees, including Marc, tells me where you stand on this issue or any other that I post about: Anti-TechCrunch.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not only is this the attitude that I was writing about (childish at best &#8211; wha disagree with a part of your post and it is anti-techcrunch), but this also drives home the absurdity of you covering your own ass and not delving into omnidrive and the royal screwing going on there. But do it in a reporting way, rather than making leaps implicating someone in manslaughter. </p>
<p>Before you roll out your same tired line &#8211; read what I wrote above and what I say here: I read TechCrunch daily (many times), I enjoy TechCrunch by-in-large, I am not anti-TechCrunch (see said enjoyment) and I was not looking to pick in any way&#8230; but I have noted posts such in November, where the way your write is not only shameful but has crossed into offensive. The implications of the heart-attack, along with the clear personal vendetta you seem to have, while ignoring other similar stories, really make me lose respect for you and this business. There are clearly others that feel the same. You can send a big one fingered salute to us all if you like, but at the end of the day &#8211; we pay your bills. Many of us are simply asking you to attempt to really look at the slant and the way you have covered this entire thing from start to this really absurd finish. I write this because I would like to think TechCrunch and ultimately you, should be above this sleezy crap. A man is dead, you have no idea if it was related to the stress, but you chose to bring it up. That is just one of many things not right with it and I for one would like to see a follow-up post where you admit your slants and at least how it looked. Rise above this.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/12/14/the-fact-and-fiction-of-sam-sethi/comment-page-2/#comment-150266</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of who is right, this post and the whole series of back-and-forth is exactly why a blog business such as TechCrunch and certainly some others, cannot be taken seriously.

Mike, you really should be above this nonsense. To make it personal, much like your prior post, makes you look sleezy. That is not to say the allegations are not sleezy, but the way you cover it is not much above VelleyWag and you write about it in such a way that simply looks like you are taking too much glee.

Meanwhile, I have yet to read about Omnidrive for which you are involved apparently, and their alleged screwing of employees... much the way has been written about here and regarding the other blog startup.

In short, you come off looking like an immature and half baked operation with obvious biases.

The apparent behavior of Sethi speak for themselves without throwing yourself into the mud along with the laundry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of who is right, this post and the whole series of back-and-forth is exactly why a blog business such as TechCrunch and certainly some others, cannot be taken seriously.</p>
<p>Mike, you really should be above this nonsense. To make it personal, much like your prior post, makes you look sleezy. That is not to say the allegations are not sleezy, but the way you cover it is not much above VelleyWag and you write about it in such a way that simply looks like you are taking too much glee.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I have yet to read about Omnidrive for which you are involved apparently, and their alleged screwing of employees&#8230; much the way has been written about here and regarding the other blog startup.</p>
<p>In short, you come off looking like an immature and half baked operation with obvious biases.</p>
<p>The apparent behavior of Sethi speak for themselves without throwing yourself into the mud along with the laundry.</p>
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		<title>By: &#160; Handbags at Dawn&#160;by&#160;Kitchen 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/12/14/the-fact-and-fiction-of-sam-sethi/comment-page-2/#comment-149913</link>
		<dc:creator>&#160; Handbags at Dawn&#160;by&#160;Kitchen 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For me it comes as no surprise that Blognation has joined the deadpool and yet again the handbags are out. Sam blames Mike A and Mike blames Sam. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For me it comes as no surprise that Blognation has joined the deadpool and yet again the handbags are out. Sam blames Mike A and Mike blames Sam. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Phill Midwinter</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/12/14/the-fact-and-fiction-of-sam-sethi/comment-page-2/#comment-149910</link>
		<dc:creator>Phill Midwinter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, I think you deserve a certain amount of kudos Mike for posting this... I&#039;m sure your finger hovered over the delete key more than once and it&#039;s obviously an extremely difficult thing to write about.

I can see the people who are worried about Marc Orchants  family have a good argument for why he shouldn&#039;t be mentioned - but I also see (as others should try to) that whether the incidents are linked or not you&#039;ve highlighted a key example of Sam Sethi treating people as subhuman and there&#039;s absolutely nothing wrong with that.

It is, unfortunately, necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I think you deserve a certain amount of kudos Mike for posting this&#8230; I&#8217;m sure your finger hovered over the delete key more than once and it&#8217;s obviously an extremely difficult thing to write about.</p>
<p>I can see the people who are worried about Marc Orchants  family have a good argument for why he shouldn&#8217;t be mentioned &#8211; but I also see (as others should try to) that whether the incidents are linked or not you&#8217;ve highlighted a key example of Sam Sethi treating people as subhuman and there&#8217;s absolutely nothing wrong with that.</p>
<p>It is, unfortunately, necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/12/14/the-fact-and-fiction-of-sam-sethi/comment-page-1/#comment-149906</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job to see the demise of Blognation.  SS was always on such a downer about startups, like he had a real chip on his shoulder about people coming up with a decent idea and having the balls to give it a shot.

The fact that he had to rip off the Blognation idea from Lee Wilkins perhaps suggests that this bitterness came from an inability to have blue shy thoughts if his own.

And what is the subject line &quot;heres-to-you-mrs-arrington...&quot; of his final Blognation post all about?  Does he think it&#039;s a slur to refer to someone as Mrs?  It&#039;s not the 80&#039;s Sam, for f*ck&#039;s sake.

Good riddance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job to see the demise of Blognation.  SS was always on such a downer about startups, like he had a real chip on his shoulder about people coming up with a decent idea and having the balls to give it a shot.</p>
<p>The fact that he had to rip off the Blognation idea from Lee Wilkins perhaps suggests that this bitterness came from an inability to have blue shy thoughts if his own.</p>
<p>And what is the subject line &#8220;heres-to-you-mrs-arrington&#8230;&#8221; of his final Blognation post all about?  Does he think it&#8217;s a slur to refer to someone as Mrs?  It&#8217;s not the 80&#8242;s Sam, for f*ck&#8217;s sake.</p>
<p>Good riddance.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Yates</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/12/14/the-fact-and-fiction-of-sam-sethi/comment-page-1/#comment-149806</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Yates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

Your post was so clear, so transparent and really well put together. It gives a lot of us hope that in the end hard work and honesty do win out over snake oil salesmen in the end.

But then you go and sully it by reacting so harshly to the trolls. Trolls will be trolls, you know that. You only make them more bold by even reacting to them. Don&#039;t take their bait.

Your original piece stands perfectly well on its own. Thanks for writing it and helping us all to learn the lessons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Your post was so clear, so transparent and really well put together. It gives a lot of us hope that in the end hard work and honesty do win out over snake oil salesmen in the end.</p>
<p>But then you go and sully it by reacting so harshly to the trolls. Trolls will be trolls, you know that. You only make them more bold by even reacting to them. Don&#8217;t take their bait.</p>
<p>Your original piece stands perfectly well on its own. Thanks for writing it and helping us all to learn the lessons.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/12/14/the-fact-and-fiction-of-sam-sethi/comment-page-1/#comment-149740</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - it says quite clearly who writes this blog in the sidebar. Go troll somewhere else.

Weary - actually, the problem would be solved if you simply left the blog and never came back. If you call what I&#039;m doing dancing, you&#039;re an idiot. Acutally, strike that. You&#039;re just an idiot, period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; it says quite clearly who writes this blog in the sidebar. Go troll somewhere else.</p>
<p>Weary &#8211; actually, the problem would be solved if you simply left the blog and never came back. If you call what I&#8217;m doing dancing, you&#8217;re an idiot. Acutally, strike that. You&#8217;re just an idiot, period.</p>
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		<title>By: Weary</title>
		<link>http://www.crunchnotes.com/2007/12/14/the-fact-and-fiction-of-sam-sethi/comment-page-1/#comment-149739</link>
		<dc:creator>Weary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, 

If you were only trying to say the Marc&#039;s heart attack was the trigger for Oliver&#039;s actions, as your protests indicate, retract the text that is offending every one: &quot;. And the reason he had a heart attack may have been because he was working for Sam, not being paid, and massively stressed out about supporting his family. That is a debatable point, but&quot;.  Replace it simply with the word &quot; and&quot;.  Problem solved.  

Even Oliver believed that you to be accusing Sam of directly causing Marc&#039;s death... &quot;While I won’t go as far as you and directly blame Sam for Marc Orchant’s tragedy&quot;.  

You shouldn&#039;t be surprised, at this point, that others are reading it the same way.  

Dancing around accusing someone of involuntary manslaughter isn&#039;t often the wisest course of action, but if that IS what you are saying, then stick by it and don&#039;t be surprised that it offends people.

You&#039;re straddling a fence at the moment trying to keep inflammatory words and while being surprised that people are inflamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, </p>
<p>If you were only trying to say the Marc&#8217;s heart attack was the trigger for Oliver&#8217;s actions, as your protests indicate, retract the text that is offending every one: &#8220;. And the reason he had a heart attack may have been because he was working for Sam, not being paid, and massively stressed out about supporting his family. That is a debatable point, but&#8221;.  Replace it simply with the word &#8221; and&#8221;.  Problem solved.  </p>
<p>Even Oliver believed that you to be accusing Sam of directly causing Marc&#8217;s death&#8230; &#8220;While I won’t go as far as you and directly blame Sam for Marc Orchant’s tragedy&#8221;.  </p>
<p>You shouldn&#8217;t be surprised, at this point, that others are reading it the same way.  </p>
<p>Dancing around accusing someone of involuntary manslaughter isn&#8217;t often the wisest course of action, but if that IS what you are saying, then stick by it and don&#8217;t be surprised that it offends people.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re straddling a fence at the moment trying to keep inflammatory words and while being surprised that people are inflamed.</p>
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